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		<title>By: Defining our Children &#124; The Spring Mount 6 Pack</title>
		<link>http://blog.pigtailpals.com/2010/06/what-the-hell-happened-to-summer-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-113127</link>
		<dc:creator>Defining our Children &#124; The Spring Mount 6 Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 05:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what is my point. Well today I saw this on the Pigtail blog. It is a summer camp that girls go to be princesses and boy are explorers. I mean I have heard of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see this all the time in my &quot;upscale&quot; suburb.  Ugh. My sister and I were sent to a summer camp for a month in Canada where we lived in A-frames and participated in a rotating schedule of activities that the boys participated in equally.  The only thing that separated the boys from the girls was which side of the dining hall their cabins were located, for obvious reasons.

However an interesting thought, I have a friend, who is a sociology professor.  She is adamantly against all this stuff as well.  Her daughter begged and pled for princess crap, and eventually she broke down.  Why?  Because in her research she discovered that owning princess items, for girls, and guns and swords, for boys, were a form of &quot;currency&quot; in navigating toddler and the under 8 set social politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see this all the time in my &#8220;upscale&#8221; suburb.  Ugh. My sister and I were sent to a summer camp for a month in Canada where we lived in A-frames and participated in a rotating schedule of activities that the boys participated in equally.  The only thing that separated the boys from the girls was which side of the dining hall their cabins were located, for obvious reasons.</p>
<p>However an interesting thought, I have a friend, who is a sociology professor.  She is adamantly against all this stuff as well.  Her daughter begged and pled for princess crap, and eventually she broke down.  Why?  Because in her research she discovered that owning princess items, for girls, and guns and swords, for boys, were a form of &#8220;currency&#8221; in navigating toddler and the under 8 set social politics.</p>
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		<title>By: pipmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>pipmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sound like me when I was a girl. I loved to be outside running and exploring everywhere. I don&#039;t know if it that times have changed or if it has always been like this but I am the mother of a 3 year old who wakes up every morning asking to wear her princess dress, which she then pairs together with her pink gumboots. She likes to wear pink, sometimes if I am lucky I can get her into a yellow dress. I have not pushed her into this in anyway, I never wear dresses or bother with make up (unless it&#039;s a special occasional) my hair is brushed in the morning and then put up and forgotten about, it&#039;s a miracle if I remember to shave my legs every three months,so I know she doesn&#039;t get it from me. It just seems to be who she is. I try to get her into overalls, shorts, jeans or leggings, she isn&#039;t interested. Having said all that as soon as she is in her pink princess dress, with her pink gumboots and her hair made all pretty she runs screaming out the back door ready to start the day exploring she doesn&#039;t mind getting messy, or loud, she has no problems play fighting and she also enjoys collecting and watching bugs, she just likes looking good when she does it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound like me when I was a girl. I loved to be outside running and exploring everywhere. I don&#8217;t know if it that times have changed or if it has always been like this but I am the mother of a 3 year old who wakes up every morning asking to wear her princess dress, which she then pairs together with her pink gumboots. She likes to wear pink, sometimes if I am lucky I can get her into a yellow dress. I have not pushed her into this in anyway, I never wear dresses or bother with make up (unless it&#8217;s a special occasional) my hair is brushed in the morning and then put up and forgotten about, it&#8217;s a miracle if I remember to shave my legs every three months,so I know she doesn&#8217;t get it from me. It just seems to be who she is. I try to get her into overalls, shorts, jeans or leggings, she isn&#8217;t interested. Having said all that as soon as she is in her pink princess dress, with her pink gumboots and her hair made all pretty she runs screaming out the back door ready to start the day exploring she doesn&#8217;t mind getting messy, or loud, she has no problems play fighting and she also enjoys collecting and watching bugs, she just likes looking good when she does it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your looking for a summer camp in the United States, check out Camp Network, http://www.campnetwork.com. There are over 4,000 camps and they have detailed descriptions of each one with links to the actual websites. Great for knowing what camps you should be looking at!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your looking for a summer camp in the United States, check out Camp Network, <a href="http://www.campnetwork.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.campnetwork.com</a>. There are over 4,000 camps and they have detailed descriptions of each one with links to the actual websites. Great for knowing what camps you should be looking at!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 05:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My youngest daughter is 22 now. When she was about 8 she was asked to a princess birthday party. So I made her a costume about her favourite princess... Xena, Warrior Princess. It was a great outfit, complete with the ring thing that Xena weilded so well. To say that we got a few skew looks when we arrived at the party would be an understatement :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My youngest daughter is 22 now. When she was about 8 she was asked to a princess birthday party. So I made her a costume about her favourite princess&#8230; Xena, Warrior Princess. It was a great outfit, complete with the ring thing that Xena weilded so well. To say that we got a few skew looks when we arrived at the party would be an understatement <img src='http://blog.pigtailpals.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<span class="cluv">Sandy&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://howtoloveyourbody.com/cheerleaders-negative-body-image/">Cheerleaders Negative Body Image</a><span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip -1" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://blog.pigtailpals.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Claire Mysko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire Mysko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Melissa. These ideas about gender get started so early, and the &quot;princessification&quot; of our girls is taking it to a whole new extreme. I have an activity in YOU&#039;RE AMAZING! that encourages girls (and girl advocates) to take a trip down the greeting card aisle and look at the birthday cards for girls and boys. Even cards for one-year-olds are obviously gendered, not just in their pink and blue colors, but in the messages and images they contain. Girls get &quot;sweet&quot; and &quot;cute&quot; ponies, kittens etc. Boys get &quot;go get &#039;em&quot; skateboards and fire engines.
.-= Claire Mysko&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://clairemysko.com/?p=145&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Oprah’s Mea Culpa: “I Publicly Shamed Myself”&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Melissa. These ideas about gender get started so early, and the &#8220;princessification&#8221; of our girls is taking it to a whole new extreme. I have an activity in YOU&#8217;RE AMAZING! that encourages girls (and girl advocates) to take a trip down the greeting card aisle and look at the birthday cards for girls and boys. Even cards for one-year-olds are obviously gendered, not just in their pink and blue colors, but in the messages and images they contain. Girls get &#8220;sweet&#8221; and &#8220;cute&#8221; ponies, kittens etc. Boys get &#8220;go get &#8216;em&#8221; skateboards and fire engines.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Claire Mysko&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://clairemysko.com/?p=145" rel="nofollow">Oprah’s Mea Culpa: “I Publicly Shamed Myself”</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://blog.pigtailpals.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Young, LMSW, BCD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Young, LMSW, BCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack! Some girls might adore this camp-like experience...it may just be their &quot;cup of tea&quot;, while the more adventurous at heart may find themselves coming up short.  I love your suggestions of making it an &quot;all-skate&quot;...with fare that would please a wide variety of campers.

The idea of gender-role stereotyping is what touches the nerves.  Why separate the genders at all when there is no obvious need to do so (no overnights, etc.)?  

But, how dare we question this seemingly harmless kid-camp experience?  Are kids smart enough to even see the discrepancy...&quot;Girls stay inside and read and have tea and crumpets...while the boys explore, divide and conquer...they are the movers and the shakers...they get things done.&quot;  While there is nothing inherently misogynistic about these camp offerings, there is an undercurrent of gender-role stereotyping that may be subtle, yet enduring.  Therin lies the rub.  

Would this one camp experience make it such that a little &quot;princess&quot; might feel that she would be resigned to a life &quot;castle-keeper&quot; and &quot;tea-preparer&quot;?  (And that SHOULD be a choice if it is made freely, and amongst other options) Highly unlikely...just as it is highly unlikely that a child would learn to read given just one lesson in reading.  It is the exposure to the topic and idea over and over again, which finally consolidates it in one&#039;s head.  It is the strong undercurrent and the insidious power that it has on one&#039;s developing belief systems about themselves and how they fit into this world, what their options are, what they are capable of and how big they can dream.

The good news is...the camps run at different times.  The saving grace would be a disclaimer that says, &quot;While we recognize not every girl might enjoy the &quot;Princess Camp&quot;, and every boy might not swoon at the idea of &quot;Adventure Camp&quot;...we scheduled them at different times and you are encouraged to sign your child up for one OR both of the camps!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack! Some girls might adore this camp-like experience&#8230;it may just be their &#8220;cup of tea&#8221;, while the more adventurous at heart may find themselves coming up short.  I love your suggestions of making it an &#8220;all-skate&#8221;&#8230;with fare that would please a wide variety of campers.</p>
<p>The idea of gender-role stereotyping is what touches the nerves.  Why separate the genders at all when there is no obvious need to do so (no overnights, etc.)?  </p>
<p>But, how dare we question this seemingly harmless kid-camp experience?  Are kids smart enough to even see the discrepancy&#8230;&#8221;Girls stay inside and read and have tea and crumpets&#8230;while the boys explore, divide and conquer&#8230;they are the movers and the shakers&#8230;they get things done.&#8221;  While there is nothing inherently misogynistic about these camp offerings, there is an undercurrent of gender-role stereotyping that may be subtle, yet enduring.  Therin lies the rub.  </p>
<p>Would this one camp experience make it such that a little &#8220;princess&#8221; might feel that she would be resigned to a life &#8220;castle-keeper&#8221; and &#8220;tea-preparer&#8221;?  (And that SHOULD be a choice if it is made freely, and amongst other options) Highly unlikely&#8230;just as it is highly unlikely that a child would learn to read given just one lesson in reading.  It is the exposure to the topic and idea over and over again, which finally consolidates it in one&#8217;s head.  It is the strong undercurrent and the insidious power that it has on one&#8217;s developing belief systems about themselves and how they fit into this world, what their options are, what they are capable of and how big they can dream.</p>
<p>The good news is&#8230;the camps run at different times.  The saving grace would be a disclaimer that says, &#8220;While we recognize not every girl might enjoy the &#8220;Princess Camp&#8221;, and every boy might not swoon at the idea of &#8220;Adventure Camp&#8221;&#8230;we scheduled them at different times and you are encouraged to sign your child up for one OR both of the camps!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Robyn Silverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Robyn Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a study for one of my qualifying papers during my doctoral program years back in which I studied websites of different sports to see the gender split-- specifically how they portrayed boys and girls in pictures and what gender markers they used in text, font, colors, etc. In much of what I saw, boys were active, girls were passive. Boys were rugged and girls were sweet and cute. 

This takes it to the next degree. As someone who grew up with dirt under her nails and insisting on wearing pants since that&#039;s what her brother&#039;s did, I couldn&#039;t begin to understand the fascination with sitting in a hot room making tiaras over the summer. I started full day camp at age 4-- earlier than my brothers because I just couldn&#039;t take it anymore to be left behind by the big yellow camp bus-- and 8 week sleep away camp at age 9.  It was dirty and sweaty and fun.

Now I&#039;m not saying that girls can&#039;t like princesses.  Or that they can&#039;t like tiaras. As long as they can toss them aside when running down a field, diving into a lake, or collecting frogs (spring peepers-- we were obsessed with them) in their hands while waiting their turn on the archery field.

Nice work, Melissa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a study for one of my qualifying papers during my doctoral program years back in which I studied websites of different sports to see the gender split&#8211; specifically how they portrayed boys and girls in pictures and what gender markers they used in text, font, colors, etc. In much of what I saw, boys were active, girls were passive. Boys were rugged and girls were sweet and cute. </p>
<p>This takes it to the next degree. As someone who grew up with dirt under her nails and insisting on wearing pants since that&#8217;s what her brother&#8217;s did, I couldn&#8217;t begin to understand the fascination with sitting in a hot room making tiaras over the summer. I started full day camp at age 4&#8211; earlier than my brothers because I just couldn&#8217;t take it anymore to be left behind by the big yellow camp bus&#8211; and 8 week sleep away camp at age 9.  It was dirty and sweaty and fun.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not saying that girls can&#8217;t like princesses.  Or that they can&#8217;t like tiaras. As long as they can toss them aside when running down a field, diving into a lake, or collecting frogs (spring peepers&#8211; we were obsessed with them) in their hands while waiting their turn on the archery field.</p>
<p>Nice work, Melissa.</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. I agree with you 100 times 100 times 100.</description>
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		<title>By: Shaping Youth &#187; Kids Summer Camps &#38; Niche Gender Marketing: Why?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaping Youth &#187; Kids Summer Camps &#38; Niche Gender Marketing: Why?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 01:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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